Can a redesign save Apple’s software? | The Vergecast

It's a slowish news week ahead of some very busy news weeks, so of course Nilay and David start the show with a long discussion about party speakers. Eventually, they get into the news, beginning with some of the huge Apple redesigns planned for WWDC in June. For the first time in a long time, the stakes for Apple's software teams feel really high. After that, the hosts talk about Nilay's recent interview with Google CEO Sundar Pichai, and what the AI-ification of everything means for the future of the web. Finally, in the lightning round, it's time for another Brendan Carr is a Dummy, plus some talk about the Nintendo Switch 2, a bit of confusing tariff news, and more. #Vergecast #Podcast #Technology

00:00 Intro
03:07 Party Speaker Phenomenon
15:46 Apple's Current Challenges and WWDC Expectations
40:45 Google's Relationship with the Web
43:23 Google's Role in the Web Ecosystem
44:14 The Economics of Search Traffic
45:08 The Decline of Search Arbitrage
45:51 Google's Influence on Web Content
47:27 The Future of the Web and AI
47:50 Google's Ranking Changes and Their Impact
50:00 The Role of AI in Web Development
51:55 Media Companies and AI Licensing Deals
53:51 The Browser Wars and AI Integration
55:34 The Changing Landscape of Web Applications
57:17 The Impact of AI on Search Engines
01:00:15 The Future of Media and Web Platforms
01:02:44 The Role of Government and Regulation
01:09:07 The Vergecast Lightning Round
01:31:06 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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